The Brompton

205 East 85th Street At SE
PRICING INFORMATION FOR The Brompton
One Bedroom from $1,565,000 (updated January 27, 2012)
Studio from $710,000 (updated February 2, 2012)

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The Brompton - 205 East 85th Street: CARTER'S REVIEW


This highly detailed, Post-Modern-style apartment building was designed by Robert A. M. Stern in the manner of numerous pre-war, red-brick-with-stone-trim apartment buildings on Park Avenue.

The facade details do much to lessen the visual sense of the building’s bulkiness and almost disguise the fact that a southern portion is cantilevered over the handsome adjacent low-rise building on the northeast corner of Third Avenue and 85th Street, not far from a post office on the same block.

It is interesting that this building was erected at the same time as another, very similarly sized apartment building one block to the west on the southeast corner of 86th Street and Lexington Avenue. That building, developed by Extell, is known as the Lucida and was designed by Cook + Fox and is completely different from the Brompton as its facades are entirely glass. It is on the same block as a fire station that makes frequent stentorian use of its sirens.

Both buildings are significant upgrades to the ambiance of 86th Street, replacing run-down and not particularly attractive low-rise buildings. It is interesting that they are separated by a much taller and older apartment building at 185 East 85th Street that is notably for its rounded balconies and entrance marquee. It could be argued that the taller building, never considered an architectural gem, is the best looking of this trio at least from the viewpoint of form.

Mr. Stern designed this building for the Related Companies for which he has designed several other successful apartment towers on the Upper East Side. He also designed 15 Central Park West for the Zeckendorfs, widely considered the most successful new luxury apartment building in the city in many years with its all-limestone facades.

The website for the Brompton described it as "stylishly proper," which was rather apt as its attention to detail was very impressive even if not revolutionary. The building has about 14,000 square feet of retail space and takes advantage of an "inclusionary housing" bonus by providing some affordable housing units off-site within the boundaries of Community Board 8.

The buildings on Third Avenue were once owned by Henry Sturman, who died in 1973 and his daughter held onto them until 1998 when Philip Pilevsky got a controlling interest in them and he is the owner of the retail portion of this building. In 2002, Related bought the building on the northeast corner of Third Avenue and 86th street, which houses a Gap store and an Equinox gym.

Judge R. Kelvin Castel of the U. S. District Court in Manhattan September 22, 2010 ordered the developer of an Upper East Side condominium building to return a $510,000 deposit plus interest to a Greek shipping executive and his wife, “in a sweeping decision that could expand the rights of condo buyers in New York,” according to an article by Josh Barbanel in today s edition of The Wall Street Journal.

The case involves the 22-story Brompton, a new brick-and-limestone tower built by by the Related Cos. on the southeast corner of Third Avenue and 86th Street and designed by Robert A. M. Stern.

The article maintained that "the ruling could allow hundreds of condo buyers to get deposits back, something many of them would like to do given the decline in apartment values caused by the economic downturn. An appeal is expected." "Related has been tougher than most developers in rebuffing buyers’ efforts to get their purchase deposits back or to negotiate deep discounts on their agreed-upon sales prices," the article said.

The case was the latest and broadest effort yet by the federal courts to take provisions of an obscure federal law - originally intended to prevent fraud in sales of large tracts of undeveloped land - and apply them to apartment deals in New York.

The suit was filed by Vasilis Bacolitsas and his wife, Sofia Nikolaidou, who in May 2008 signed a contract to pay $3.4 million for a three-bedroom unit in the building and subsequently sought to get out of the deal and get back their deposit.

The office of New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo rejected a claim by the same buyers under state law for the return of the deposit, but the federal judge, the article said, "found that the standard sales contract given to the couple didn’t meet the requirements of the Interstate Land Sales Full Disclosure Act, which was passed by Congress in 1968 to protect land buyers."

"Since the contract was similar to those used in new condominium developments across New York, lawyers for both developers and buyers said it could potentially wreak havoc with both existing projects and future developments. ’It throws into doubt every contract of sale of condos in New York in buildings of more than a hundred units,’ says Adam Leitman Bailey, a real-estate lawyer who represented the buyers. Mark Walfish, a lawyer representing Related, said an appeal would be filed. ‘We believe the decision was incorrect and would effectively give a rescission right to nearly every purchaser of a newly built condominium,’" the article said.

Judge Castel’s decision turned on one of the provisions of the Full Disclosure Act which states that a legal description of property being sold must be in a form that can be recorded with county clerks. In his ruling, Judge Castel held that the contract that Mr. Bacolitsas and his wife signed was not in a form "acceptable for recording" with the city, because it didn’t include notarized signatures of both the buyers and the sellers. As a rule, condo contracts in New York aren’t notarized, and many contracts - including those at the Brompton - contain clauses stating that they cannot be recorded," the article said.

Stuart M. Saft, a lawyer at Dewey & LeBoeuf who is not involved in the case, said that lenders do not want buyers to have a claim on a development in the event of a foreclosure, adding that "It is going to be a huge problem going forward."



BUILDING SUMMARY
  • Condominium
  • Built in 2009
  • Located in Yorkville
  • 166 apartments
  • 23 floors
  • Approx. avg. price per sq ft: $1,448
  • Approx. price per sq ft range:
    $1,365 - $1,530
FEATURES & AMENITIES
  • Concierge
  • FT Doorman
  • Hi Rise
  • Post War
  • Basement Storage
  • Central AC
  • Roof Deck
  • Washer/Dryer in building
  • Elevator
  • Event Room
  • Children's Playroom
  • Fitness Center
PROS & CONS
PROS
  • Designed by Robert A. M. Stern
  • One block from subway
  • Excellent cross-town bus service
  • Doorman
  • Handsome lobby
  • Highly detailed facades
  • Large living rooms
  • Some duplex units
  • Fitness center

CONS
  • Many apartments
  • No garage
  • Considerable traffic

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